The Art Of The Debate

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One thing we believe strongly at No Hate No Violence is that we need to lower the rhetoric, increase the tolerance, and become way better listeners.  Simply by becoming good listeners we can automatically lower our rhetoric because then we can answer the questions and points being raised with some facts.  We are a big believer in facts.  Just ranting and raving and insisting your ideas matter more than others without any real cognitive thinking, simply emotional thinking, is difficult for anyone to deal with.

That is why we just finished four years of developing World Debating Forum which we are about to launch.  We are going to distribute it to as many teachers in the world as we can, starting in the United States.  It will show you ways to do in-class debating as well as debating at the kitchen table where you listen and you each take turns.  At the (virtual or physical) kitchen table over the holidays our recommendation is – if somebody gets into a controversial subject, say, “Here’s the deal guys.  You can all talk, but you get two minutes each and it’s over.  It’s over at the end of two minutes.  There are no winners or losers.  You each get to say what you want for two minutes.”  Have somebody time it.

If you start communicating in that way, you will be amazed at how easily you lower the rhetoric and increase the dialogue.  If somebody simply whines and complains for two minutes, they finally realize they have accomplished absolutely nothing.  Yet, if they talk calmly and logically and back it up with some facts, they find they can get a lot conveyed in two minutes.

We teach everyone from students to business managers how to get a whole lot of great communication into a short period of time.  Why?  We come prepared.  We come prepared for argument.  If you believe in a certain thing, even politics, just always be prepared and have the facts to back it up.  Don’t just say, “I don’t like this guy,” or, “I hate this guy just because of the way he talks.”  I don’t think that works.

What works a whole lot better is, “I don’t like this guy because of this fact and that fact,” and let it go at that.

For example, take the Police Departments or the teachers in this country.  Why do they become burned out so quickly?  It is because of the way they are treated.  If they were treated with respect, they would be a lot more effective for a long longer.  How would you like to be a teacher or cop in Chicago and be called every name in the book, every hour of every day and then be expected to have a good attitude while you are teaching or patrolling the community?  It’s impossible.  To blame the teachers is not right, but at the same time, you know, having young, fresh teachers sometimes is what it takes.

Our debating forum is really going to show you how in-class learning can be done in either physical or virtual classrooms.  It doesn’t make any difference if you only debate in your class or whatever once a month.  What is important is that you do it!

We believe in the unrecognized connection between debate and athletics in building better lives.  Click this image for a great 8 minute video on this hidden connection!

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You know how it’s always been said that athletics makes better people who ultimately do better in life and in school?  The truth is:  That only applies to those who are top athletes.  The 96% or 97% of the people who are not in the tier of top athletes actually do much worse in life because they are so disappointed they didn’t make it, feeling that they wasted and spent all their time on that goal.  They struggle with reading, writing and arithmetic.

Look at the colleges.  We worry about getting our kids into college.  I would much rather graduate 98% of our high school kids than even have colleges because our country would be a much better place to live because a lot less people would be in gangs, and a lot less people would be living below their potential for happiness and productivity.  On the other hand, if they grow up in a debating environment during school, learning to think cognitively rather than emotionally, they may be able to land an internship with a future employer while still in school.

If you want to go to college for free, become a debater and then shop around for some companies in your junior and senior year of high school and ask them to hire you when you graduate from college.  Many will put you through college for free, and I am talking about major companies like Intel, Amazon and others.  Many companies have programs like that.  We should be teaching our kids how to fit into society.  It doesn’t mean you have to make a decision for the rest of your life.  You might decide for the first five or ten years of your life.  “Okay.  I’m going to go to college on Amazon, and I’m going to work there three or four years.”  Trust me.  People will try and hire you away from Amazon if you are any good.

Whether you are debating formally, informally, in-class debating, socially or in the running of your business, debating is going to become one of the biggest things to ever happen because it can be done virtually so well.  In the future it will be a major way of running businesses and negotiating deals.  I predict a new “Art of the Deal” that incorporates applied debating techniques across the business spectrum from weekly staff meetings to negotiating mergers. The reason I can so confidently predict the coming of  “The Art Of The Debate” is that I’m writing it.

STOP TALKING AND DO SOMETHING!

OUR CHILDREN’S FUTURE IS IN OUR HANDS

It has been enjoyable to see a turndown of some of the hate that’s been on the media for the last three or four years, especially the Trump Haters. Now, for sure they haven’t gone away. They just don’t seem to be jumping up and down as much as they were, other than complaining about him wanting a revote count (which is probably not going to help him anyway). Still, it’s nice to see. It’s going to be interesting to see what the media is going to do over the next four years without that bone to chew!

I’m proud of the conservative Democrats that didn’t try and do the wrong things, like petitioning, rioting or whatnot. Even with the election being up in the air, they have thus far exercised restraint. Some of those things are still going on in a couple of cities, but that’s being paid for by ANTIFA, and other violent hate groups  –  I mean, the billionaires that are behind them. At No Hate No Violence, we really want to point out people that do not support hate, but what I am most proud of is all the people that are not letting themselves be manipulated.

We have a lot of great things to look forward to. I’m hoping the new administration will do the right thing, because it is for the people, and that’s who they work for! The money they’re spending is the taxpayers’ money. If you have any ideas that you would like to share about what you think has to be done in the future relative to this, please share your thoughts.

“What I am most proud of is all the people that are not letting themselves be manipulated.”

We’re excited about the future of our organization. We’re about to launch our World Debating Forum. It’s going to help all the schools, at a very minimal cost. We hope it gets adopted and tried by more and more schools. It’s been hugely successful everywhere that it has been adopted. We’re not familiar with anywhere in the world where this system has been tried that it has not been successful when given an effort.  It’s less work for the teachers, and it’s more fun for the kids. They help teach themselves. Though, we still need more teachers. This requires more teachers, time for teachers. A really well-run system has an intern that comes in and helps support it for a while, and that’s going to be paid for by the private sector, not by the taxpayer. We believe that we can help adjust the education system through our World Debating system, to actually keep the teachers employed at a good rate. We hope to expand their capabilities, and get much higher ratings individually, especially in the less fortunate communities. For any state that’s interested in increasing their rankings among other states, this is a great system. We must increase our ranking in the world. We’re dropping like a rock compared to other countries.

 

It’s time for change. We need to do something different! We’ve all heard Albert Einstein’s famous line: “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” We need to try something a little different. This is not a curriculum. It’s a different way of teaching…it’s an adjustment. The teachers that implement our system love it. They have to do less work, while at the same time receiving more awards, which in turn, results in more raises and ultimately better jobs.

I Just Hate Them – Sometimes

Is there such thing as good hate or tolerable hate?

I think there is, I think there are times when hate is or can be interesting and fun. For example, I hate my opposing football, baseball, basketball, or soccer team, and sometimes I even hate their fans. Now, when I use the word “hate” I do not really mean I hate them I just use that word to express my strong feelings.

But – hate them and their leaders because they belong to a different political party? That is not good, that is bad because it causes division within the nation.

Our new belief here at No Hate No Violence is that any hate that harms people, their feelings, or leads to any kind of minor or major violence, is bad hate or hate that we need to resolve.

You can disagree with them; you can tell them your opinions but to hate a person for their political beliefs or their religious beliefs is unconscionable and morally wrong. If we all hated each other because of our difference in beliefs, there would be enough hate to cause endless wars.

I can tell you that there are a lot of people that would hate me because I am a Catholic but what those people don’t know is that I don’t believe in everything that the Catholic Church believes in; I don’t think that a lot of Muslims believe in everything that the Holy Mosque believes in and I don’t think the Jewish religion has followers that believe in everything the Great Synagogue believes in.

That is the problem We all try to interpret each other through labels; that is like me judging a Democrat by the Democratic leaders, or Republicans by Republican leaders. The people and the leaders are so far from each other that the Republican and Democratic leaders in Washington DC no-way represent the constituents and voters of this country. But there are some radicals that think that political leaders do represent the people, and those radicals are rioting in violence and killing policemen and pretending that this is representative of political ideals. I am pretty confident it is not, and the Democratic Party really needs to reject those radicals. I know they are rejected within the people I talk to however, they’re just not rejected in the political leadership because Democratic leaders, like the idiot leaders in Portland, Seattle, New York City, and San Francisco actually think that by not saying anything and continuing to reinforce the violence they will get more votes.

Those political leaders are so wrong in thinking that; they will not get more votes. Their “strategy” is going to backfire because the general consensus is against them. We spend our time gathering these comments and the facts as we see them disagree with this “strategy” entirely. They are driving votes directly to the Trump Campaign.

If they want to get Biden elected, the leadership needs to come out for Law Enforcement and not be seen as working against them. There are some bad policemen, no question about it. Most of them are known to their commanders and should be fired but Police Chiefs are not allowed to by the unions. The bad cops are being protected by the unions and as long as you try to deal with this issue by defunding the police nothing will change because the bad guys and their protectors in the unions are still going to be there. Do not think for one minute that the police chief does not know who the bigots, racists, drug addicts, and unstable officers are, he does, he just cannot fire them. That is the kind of hidden issue behind police violence that we need to think about long and hard instead of just repeating slogans, no matter how emotionally satisfying it may be to yell “Defund The Cops!”.

I think we could do a lot more in supporting our Police Chiefs being able to clean up their bad actors rather than simplistically trying to defund them. If you defund them, do you think they are going to let go of the bad cops first? No, we are just going to discourage good new people because under present conditions many of the best will not even consider being cops in the first place.

It’s interesting but one thing I do know is, I’m a University of Oregon Ducks fan and I love the Oregon State Beaver fans – unless they’re playing the Ducks and then I hate them – for that game only. Then of course we all go out and have a drink together – like politicians used to do after a hot round of rhetorically “hating each other” over some controversial piece of legislation.

That is what we need to get back to, loving the people we also “hate” – but for all the right reasons – not hating other people because of their political beliefs, or their place in life, or their race, or their appearance, or any of the other morally feeble excuses so many people use to try to excuse their twisted love of hatred and violence.

Amazing Hate

It is amazing to me how many people get away with writing such hateful things on Facebook and Twitter and the other social media platforms. They appear to view hate as an effective way to make a statement and get their point across, although sometimes they are clearly just venting to feel better. And why do they do that? Generally because they have an extremely small audience and they haven’t realized that and think that the world is listening to their rant. Why don’t they rethink why they hate this person or that group and then put their new insight to good use. Why not try to put more of their feelings and thoughts into articulating exactly how and why they disagree with this person or that group, saying here is what I want them to change, and here is what I will do to help make it happen. We hear way too much about people’s analysis of the problems while we all know pretty much what the problems are, but we actually need are solutions, or at least constructive thoughts on how we can reach a workable solution.

Take someone that you really hate – whether it’s the President or whoever – and say what you don’t like about what he does in a respectful way, and how do you think he could change; does anybody try to change him? Anybody tried asking him for something before trying to force him to do something or pushing him to do something?

I’m not a Trump person by any means, but I do know that a better dialogue will get more done, not just the politics, all of the other organizations that are based on hate which can not be a good thing. If your organization is based on hate, you need to rethink it and think about how can we convert this hate into a productive dialogue where we can tell what our problems are and do something about it. Has “Black Lives Matter” gone to any police chief in this country and asked them what they would like them to do to change? That would be working on the problem by proposing a solution and that’s what we believe in No Hate No Violence.

Hate and violence don’t accomplish anything, and we believe that hate can be greatly minimized by everybody if you think before you express hate or think before you talk about hate and think before you put hate out there even if you are as hate-filled a group as ISIS.

If you think about your hateful language and try to put your ideas into words that offer something that’s a solution, you’ll get a lot more respect and a lot more of a following saying that we ought to follow those suggestions about that whatever situation is. I don’t know what you need to do about the radicals but I still think that over time, if we can take the low hanging fruit and minimize the hate; we can work our way up towards reducing the radicals not just possibly some of their thinking but more importantly minimize their impact.

I don’t believe in censorship and at the same time I don’t think you should show somebody how to build a bomb; free speech has got to take some social responsibility. In the No Hate No Violence movement we believe in trying to find solutions; I can guarantee you that no matter what your religious or political beliefs, you can live a much happier, more productive life by working on the solutions, Trust me please; I know from experience.

A POSITIVE MESSAGE

Hello Grassroots!

Imagine the impact that this NO HATE NO VIOLENCE message could have energizing the Conservative Base AND getting more Democrats and Republicans for President Trump in your community!

 

We normally don’t get into politics at all and we are not anti-Biden at all, we just believe that the platform developed by others using him can be the end of The American Dream as we know it; we need to save the American dream.

Can you help get this message out, starting at the grassroots, with your local, your conservative candidates, Democrat, Republican, Liberian, and all the independents who are planning to vote for Trump?

Envision the 2020 Convention making a dramatic public commitment to this healing message, literally “Trumping” any message the Democrats could possibly conceive. We can all change and support Tolerance and forgiveness, The President needs to Lead this charge by modifying his attitude , to help this ideology , instead of the ideology of hate and violence, being put forth by A minority of leaders and the Main street  press in the name of winning at all costs. Trump hating is not a campaign, it’s a pitch that some rich and powerfull people use to keep some of us as puppets or victims and to keep their power over the American people.

It’s True the President gives them ammunition in the name of defense, with his Tweets but are we willing to give up our freedom over a Hate campaign!

We at No Hate No Violence don’t usually get into Politics but this loss of our Freedom is too important for us to not weigh in.

We all need to change, be happier and more positive in our approach to politics and each other and change our attitude. Real debating has been lost in American Politics and we hope to help the new generation learn by debating and teach our politicians how to behave and get back to how our country was formed.

Go to Worlddebatingforum.com to see what we are creating for students and teachers, to learn easier, faster and have more fun.

What you’re looking at above are just some examples of the local grassroots initiatives we started in 2016 and that we’re continuing to promote in our community today with this message on behalf of   Doing the right thing –will you help the President take this national? We’re more than willing to give local candidates and the RNC and Trump 2020 ALL rights to use our “No Hate No Violence” message

We have arranged to make up to 500,000 of these signs available nationwide over the next 3 months at below COST, PRINTED LOCALLY when possible or possibly free based on our conversations with potential sponsors. Can you imagine the impact of this message visible on 500,000 lawns and corners?

We have some other equally potent grassroots Go-Trump Pro-Trump surprises to share that we have learned voters not politicians.

PLEASE CONTACT US DIRECTLY WITH YOUR IDEAS & SUGGESTIONS, AND TO ORDER A WHOLE BUNCH OF THESE SIGNS FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU!

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Why We Believe In NoHateNoViolence

We’ve been focusing so much lately on the development of WorldDebatingForum.com rather than posting on this blog that we feel a need to re-state why we’re dedicating ourselves to the philosophy of No Hate No Violence.

We very simply believe that if we can encourage this alternative ideology, over time the U.S and the world can become a much better place.

This human rights-based approach is a peaceful ideology that combats Hate and Violence, not only in religious or political attitudes but also by offering a pragmatic approach to coming up with solutions designed to stop hate.

Help us help others by sending us your solutions to Hate and Violence.

SO, WHAT IS THE NO HATE NO VIOLENCE PHILOSOPHY?

Simple. There Should Be No Place In This World For:

HATE OR VIOLENCE IN POLICE COMMUNITY RELATIONS

HATE OR VIOLENCE IN GENDER RELATIONS

HATE OR VIOLENCE IN RELIGION

HATE OR VIOLENCE IN RACE RELATIONS

HATE OR VIOLENCE IN POLITICS

What we need right now is an alternative ideology to combat terrorists, racists, bigots, religious zealots, radical politicians, and anyone else spreading hate and violence. If you hate anything; ask yourself why? Hate is a choice and everyone has the power to change their choices in life.

In America, we are fortunate to have free speech and the ability to believe in what we want. We can disagree with a belief and promote our own. What we should NOT do though is promote hate or violence to accomplish our goals.

No Hate No Violence is a safer ideology for all parties. And all individuals. It is an alternative approach to combat terrorists, racism, negative politics, and discrimination. Who can logically disagree with these thoughts?

Who can argue with it? Who should listen to them? If they hate, that is their problem. Show them how to make a change so they can talk without hate.

If you ask anyone if they believe in hate or violence, most would say no. So why then do we have so much in the world? Those who preach violence through the guise of religion and or for any other reason should not be able to benefit from the tax deductions recognized and provided by the U.S. Government.  Many other such benefits are wrongly given to those who promote violence.

If you have a hateful attitude, you may know some people who agree with you, but the majority of your peers, friends, family, and society probably do not. If you commit or promote violence in this world then someone – a group, a government, a country, or all the above will always be against you. Violence is the last resort for solving issues of any kind, and we all know that it simply doesn’t solve anything.

We all need to work on discouraging hate and violence in the world, which starts with us and our elected leaders and politicians. The more we identify with this ideology, the faster we can minimize hate and violence in the world, and the sooner we can help spread the message and have others do the same.

Human rights, especially women’s rights, need to be promoted again, and more often. The more we can eliminate, or minimize hate, the better the world will be. Some ideas will work better than others, but together we have the ability to change this ideology. It might take another hundred years to change all of this in the world and the way most people think, and approach hate and violence, but every person that adopts this type of thinking will help in the fight for peace and tolerance around the world.  The U.S. stopped promoting human rights around the world over the last several years allowing the problem to grow.

Also, if you can change your attitude and eliminate “Hate and Violence” the happier you will be. Hate does not make anyone happy.  If you believe in no hate no violence, scream it from the rooftops, share it with a community leader, a co-worker, your local politician.  Pass it on.

This ideology needs to spread to people who can honestly and passionately get behind it and influence it, individuals(s) who can develop it into policies and spread the word and transform these words into action.  Someone strong (like the American President) who could be honest about the human shortcomings we all have could do the most. We may not be able to eliminate all hate or violence in this world, but together we can significantly minimize it.  We can be the good guys again and create a platform from which we can work to eliminate the Hate and Violence we see spreading everywhere.

SHIFTING OUR ATTITUDE TO SHIFT THE WORLD

The longer I live, the more I realize how much impact attitude has on people’s lives. A person’s attitude is more important than education. It’s more important than money, circumstances, failures, successes, appearance or skill. It’s especially more important than what others think, say or do. The attitude of everyone involved will make or break a company, a church, a home – or a country.

Look at politics. A change in attitude could be one of the largest, fastest influences on our country’s political ideology. We need to go back to the days when politicians had an attitude of compromise. Instead of focusing on what they perceive will keep them or their party in office and in control, they should compromise for the people they serve. Politicians need to shift their attitude back to the time when they existed to help the people they are sworn to serve and who elected them to do so.

The change starts by shifting the political focus. Once politicians start focusing on the issues instead of gossip and their own special interests, the attitudes of the people will start to change. The silent majority will wake up, become proud of their country, and get involved in working for everyone, not just themselves. In turn, the politicians’ attitudes will continue to shift, and they’ll start working harder to agree instead of disagree. And the cycle will continue, moving the country closer to actually fixing our problems.

The remarkable thing is that this change is something we, the people, can make every day. Every day we have a choice regarding the attitude we embrace. We cannot change the past, nor the fact that other people will act a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. But we can change our attitude. And we’re the only ones who can change it.

I am convinced that life is 10 percent what happens to us and 90 percent how we react to it. So change how you react to all things in this world, and you might just change the world itself. Hopefully, our political leaders will actually lead us in this effort.

Icing On The Cake

We’ve been working hard for several years to develop a program that encourages a new kind of debating. Classroom debating is a new specialized (but not complicated) form of debating that has been adapted for teaching core subject matter like Algebra, History and Biology, in contrast with the debating teams and tournaments we’re all pretty familiar with as formal debate.

In the process of our research and writing we took a long look at the relationship between debating and sports, comparing how both sports and debating help kids in school do better. There has been some controversy in the past over whether sports takes away from academics but that has been pretty well discounted by new research that shows broad positive academic benefits from both sports and debate. Both provide a broad basis from which to build cognitive, interpersonal, academic, and life skills. I like to think of debating and sports together like a cake.

Everybody likes cake because cakes are just plain fun to eat, just like both debating and sports are great fun if they are properly “baked”.  Some people will say that the best part of the cake is really about athletics and if you are a student involved in athletics then being involved in debating would just be icing on the cake. But then I think there’s an equally good argument that debating is the whole cake and sports is better thought of as the icing – if you really have to take one over the other. But who takes the icing over the cake, or vice versa?

Now, I happen to be a guy who loves icing, and I’m lucky that my wife happens to like the cake part, and so she gives me her icing and I win-win with double icing (miraculously she doesn’t ask me for my cake part in exchange) but I don’t I think the point here is irrelevant to the Debate/Sports metaphor I’m offering up. Which one is the icing and which one is the cake, and who likes which part better doesn’t really matter because they both hugely complement each other and if enjoyed together everything is improved.

So debating is good for the athlete and maybe a little more interest in sports would be good for at least some debaters. Athletics have, at times, been considered not in the same wheelhouse as academics, but we think that we can get the Sports community and the Debating community to become aware that they have much more in common than either realizes and we are working to bring that connection into the light.  We believe that the debating community should be raised up to be equivalent to a sport – something to be proud of and to be part of as fans just the way people get involved with sports.

In many ways sports and debate are already connected. Some of the best debaters that are out there are sports debaters and if you just watch how they debate sports on Saturday and Sunday morning you’ll see what I mean. You don’t see how efficiently they debate because they have a coach constantly talking in their ear. Just like any Lincoln-Douglas debater they are given 90 seconds to make their point and they have to do it with facts. They bring a lot of experience and opinion to what they’re talking about, but it’s always backed up with facts and research. I mean when you’re done listening to one of these sports commentators talk you definitely have the facts. You know what they were basing their decision on and what the factual basis of their argument was. Even if you have nothing to do with sports watch them sometime – you’ll see some of the best most articulate debating you’ll ever encounter next to going into watching Parliamentary or Lincoln Douglas level debating.

So when it comes to debating and sports I want the whole cake – don’t think for a minute I like just the icing. I like the whole debate/sports cake because I know the whole cake tastes best and if the whole cake not only tastes better but makes me a better person and a smarter person (that’s some cake!) then you can bet I want the whole cake and I also want that whole cake for every student in every school as a regular part of their diet.

NYC Urban Debate League Rocks!

Over the past two years as we’ve been developing World Debating Forum we’ve had the opportunity to review many different kinds of school-based debate programs, and there are none more exciting to us that what we see happening in the New York City Urban Debate League. It’s one thing to read the deep academic research on how debating can change the lives of young people from challenging backgrounds and

it’s another thing altogether to see and hear these kids tell their own stories.

The New York City Urban Debate League is responsible for reaching out to thousands of young people from every kind of background and circumstance and raising them up through the power of debate. Whether it’s increased high school graduation rates, reduced dropout rates, fewer young people falling victim to drugs and alcohol abuse, or radically increased lifetime earnings – all of these benefits of debate are made available at schools throughout the city by this energized debate-centered organization of teachers, coaches, students, administrators and community supporters.

We recently spend a full day browsing the video collection on the NYC Urban Debate League’s website and we would like to invite you to do the same. If you care about the lives of our young people who are facing challenges that rival the greatest ever faced by older generations, visit this website and listen to the stories of the young people. They will inspire you and fill you with pride in what they have been able to accomplish. These stories may also challenge you, as they did us, to envision this same program for every community.

Great Example Of How Debate Can Change Young Lives

As much as we would like to we can’t add to this New York Daily News article about the Brooklyn Middle School that just five years ago was down from 1200 students to a bare 165 students before Ben Honoroff and his staff turned the school into one of the best schools in the five boroughs by making debating a major driver of classroom education. The debate program has taken MS 50 from almost being closed down to being one of the best schools in New York City. We believe in the power of debate to change lives and this is one of the best examples of this principle that we’ve seen.

Principal Honoroff and his kids should be extremely proud and our hats are off to all of them – and their parents! This article shows how debate gives kids incentive to work harder and learn more while being easier and a lot more fun for the teachers. Our sincere congratulations to the kids of MS 50 and to Ben Honoroff and his great staff!

“Unlikely Brooklyn middle school debaters best in the five boroughs — and maybe in the USA” 

By WES PARNELL and Larry McShane

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS |

Middle School 50 principal Benjamin Honoroff is proud of his debaters, including Grant Shan Jr, (left), 14, and Kevin Ascencion, 13.

(Kevin C Downs for New York Daily News)

There’s no argument here: The debate team at Middle School 50 is breaking down its opponents — and stereotypes.

The squad from the Williamsburg school, just three years from nearly closing its doors for good, is now one win away away from reaching the national championships in Houston.

“We constantly not only compete against schools with more funding, but we also win,” said proud school principal Ben Honoroff. “It’s working harder, smarter and longer … I leave school inspired every day.”

The Brooklyn school remains an unlikely launching pad for the fast-thinking youths who captured the last three citywide debate titles. Just three years ago, with the student population down from 1,200 to just 165 over the previous two decades, the school teetered on the edge of extinction.

Students debating whether junk food or healthy food should be served in schools in New York City. Middle School 50 in Willliamsburg, Brooklyn.(Kevin C. Downs for New York Daily News)

But the program, available for students in either English or Spanish, altered both the future of the school and its participants. Enrollment now stands at 300, with one in kids five enrolled in the debate program.

 On Saturday, the team members hosted a debate for 100 students from seven local elementary schools as they spread the good word.

Student Diego Pena, a Dominican native who came to MS 50 in early 2017, cited the debate team for his metamorphosis from a kid with no dreams to an aspiring attorney.

“It teaches you how to think, how to analyze both parts of the argument,” said Pena, a star student who now works with younger debaters. “The debate is something grand that opens your mind to many things.”

The Texas trip is not the first national attention for the MS 50 debaters. New York’s Democratic Rep. Nydia Velazquez previously honored the team with a speech and a plaque on the floor of the House of Representatives.

The program began with just four students in 2013. While morale and membership exploded, not everything has changed: Nine out of 10 of the school’s poverty-stricken students still qualify for a free lunch.

Janier Espinal, a fifth-grader, hopes to join the MS 50 squad next year. With the aid of the older students, he notched a pair of first-place finishes Saturday in Spanish-language and individual debate.

 “I feel like I’m doing something big,” said the Dominican immigrant, who one day hopes to work in the White House. “I always wanted to come here to learn English, help my family and get a better life.”

A student from Public School 34 debating team is joyful after winning a medal.(Kevin C. Downs for New York Daily News)

Eighth-grader Kevin Ascencion, 13, recalled how the competitions boosted his self-confidence and ability to handle pressure.

“It’s really nerve-wracking going against top-ranked schools,” said the son of two Mexican immigrants. “But it helps you to be competitive and teaches you how to step up.”

Parent Steve Guerrero, father of 10-year-old debater Juaquin, was stunned by the composure of the kids.

The members of the MS 50 debate team are seen at the school in Brooklyn. (Kevin C. Downs for New York Daily News)

”I would have never expected kids of this age to be this articulate,” he marveled. “I would have vomited and started crying if I had to do this when I was 10 years old.”

MS 50 teacher Caroline Hidalgo, who launched the Spanish language team, recalled breaking down in tears when Pena told her about his hopes.

“I never thought I created a difference like that,” she recounted. “Now every time I wake up in the morning, I wake up with more life knowing that I am making a good impact.

 

THE MOST IMPORTANT PART ABOUT FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS LISTENING

Hate-filled and disrespectful “free speech” is alive and well in the Democratic Party, which has been my party for 50+ years. The so called “debate” the other night was filled with nasty and embarrassing moments – again. No order, no self-control, no facts or fact checking, way too many straight-out lies, and the moderators quickly lost their grip on the process – again.
Who runs the best debates – go back and look. Who asks hard questions of all candidates, enforces the rules of debating, and never lets people talk over each other – all to make sure the audience can hear and understand what is being said. Whether you like what is being said or not – that isn’t the point here.

Saying what you disagree or agree with using facts and reasoning with respect – that’s debating. Pushing forward just points of view and facts that you like and ignoring, rejecting and disrespecting everything else – that’s not debating or helping the voters learn.
A debate should be about people discussing facts and ideas, making reasonable even if passionate arguments, and listening to each other. We did not hear a debate the other evening because of the lack of control by candidates and moderators alike, the hateful bickering, accusations and innuendos, with all the shouting and “look at me” grandstanding to grab attention. Again.
We at NO HATE NO VIOLENCE believe in debating done correctly with good facts and respect.

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