Author: Pat

Is there such thing as good hate or tolerable hate?

I think there is, I think there are times when hate is or can be interesting and fun. For example, I hate my opposing football, baseball, basketball, or soccer team, and sometimes I even hate their fans. Now, when I use the word “hate” I do not really mean I hate them I just use that word to express my strong feelings.

But – hate them and their leaders because they belong to a different political party? That is not good, that is bad because it causes division within the nation.

Our new belief here at No Hate No Violence is that any hate that harms people, their feelings, or leads to any kind of minor or major violence, is bad hate or hate that we need to resolve.

You can disagree with them; you can tell them your opinions but to hate a person for their political beliefs or their religious beliefs is unconscionable and morally wrong. If we all hated each other because of our difference in beliefs, there would be enough hate to cause endless wars.

I can tell you that there are a lot of people that would hate me because I am a Catholic but what those people don’t know is that I don’t believe in everything that the Catholic Church believes in; I don’t think that a lot of Muslims believe in everything that the Holy Mosque believes in and I don’t think the Jewish religion has followers that believe in everything the Great Synagogue believes in.

That is the problem We all try to interpret each other through labels; that is like me judging a Democrat by the Democratic leaders, or Republicans by Republican leaders. The people and the leaders are so far from each other that the Republican and Democratic leaders in Washington DC no-way represent the constituents and voters of this country. But there are some radicals that think that political leaders do represent the people, and those radicals are rioting in violence and killing policemen and pretending that this is representative of political ideals. I am pretty confident it is not, and the Democratic Party really needs to reject those radicals. I know they are rejected within the people I talk to however, they’re just not rejected in the political leadership because Democratic leaders, like the idiot leaders in Portland, Seattle, New York City, and San Francisco actually think that by not saying anything and continuing to reinforce the violence they will get more votes.

Those political leaders are so wrong in thinking that; they will not get more votes. Their “strategy” is going to backfire because the general consensus is against them. We spend our time gathering these comments and the facts as we see them disagree with this “strategy” entirely. They are driving votes directly to the Trump Campaign.

If they want to get Biden elected, the leadership needs to come out for Law Enforcement and not be seen as working against them. There are some bad policemen, no question about it. Most of them are known to their commanders and should be fired but Police Chiefs are not allowed to by the unions. The bad cops are being protected by the unions and as long as you try to deal with this issue by defunding the police nothing will change because the bad guys and their protectors in the unions are still going to be there. Do not think for one minute that the police chief does not know who the bigots, racists, drug addicts, and unstable officers are, he does, he just cannot fire them. That is the kind of hidden issue behind police violence that we need to think about long and hard instead of just repeating slogans, no matter how emotionally satisfying it may be to yell “Defund The Cops!”.

I think we could do a lot more in supporting our Police Chiefs being able to clean up their bad actors rather than simplistically trying to defund them. If you defund them, do you think they are going to let go of the bad cops first? No, we are just going to discourage good new people because under present conditions many of the best will not even consider being cops in the first place.

It’s interesting but one thing I do know is, I’m a University of Oregon Ducks fan and I love the Oregon State Beaver fans – unless they’re playing the Ducks and then I hate them – for that game only. Then of course we all go out and have a drink together – like politicians used to do after a hot round of rhetorically “hating each other” over some controversial piece of legislation.

That is what we need to get back to, loving the people we also “hate” – but for all the right reasons – not hating other people because of their political beliefs, or their place in life, or their race, or their appearance, or any of the other morally feeble excuses so many people use to try to excuse their twisted love of hatred and violence.

It is amazing to me how many people get away with writing such hateful things on Facebook and Twitter and the other social media platforms. They appear to view hate as an effective way to make a statement and get their point across, although sometimes they are clearly just venting to feel better. And why do they do that? Generally because they have an extremely small audience and they haven’t realized that and think that the world is listening to their rant. Why don’t they rethink why they hate this person or that group and then put their new insight to good use. Why not try to put more of their feelings and thoughts into articulating exactly how and why they disagree with this person or that group, saying here is what I want them to change, and here is what I will do to help make it happen. We hear way too much about people’s analysis of the problems while we all know pretty much what the problems are, but we actually need are solutions, or at least constructive thoughts on how we can reach a workable solution.

Take someone that you really hate – whether it’s the President or whoever – and say what you don’t like about what he does in a respectful way, and how do you think he could change; does anybody try to change him? Anybody tried asking him for something before trying to force him to do something or pushing him to do something?

I’m not a Trump person by any means, but I do know that a better dialogue will get more done, not just the politics, all of the other organizations that are based on hate which can not be a good thing. If your organization is based on hate, you need to rethink it and think about how can we convert this hate into a productive dialogue where we can tell what our problems are and do something about it. Has “Black Lives Matter” gone to any police chief in this country and asked them what they would like them to do to change? That would be working on the problem by proposing a solution and that’s what we believe in No Hate No Violence.

Hate and violence don’t accomplish anything, and we believe that hate can be greatly minimized by everybody if you think before you express hate or think before you talk about hate and think before you put hate out there even if you are as hate-filled a group as ISIS.

If you think about your hateful language and try to put your ideas into words that offer something that’s a solution, you’ll get a lot more respect and a lot more of a following saying that we ought to follow those suggestions about that whatever situation is. I don’t know what you need to do about the radicals but I still think that over time, if we can take the low hanging fruit and minimize the hate; we can work our way up towards reducing the radicals not just possibly some of their thinking but more importantly minimize their impact.

I don’t believe in censorship and at the same time I don’t think you should show somebody how to build a bomb; free speech has got to take some social responsibility. In the No Hate No Violence movement we believe in trying to find solutions; I can guarantee you that no matter what your religious or political beliefs, you can live a much happier, more productive life by working on the solutions, Trust me please; I know from experience.

Hello Grassroots!

Imagine the impact that this NO HATE NO VIOLENCE message could have energizing the Conservative Base AND getting more Democrats and Republicans for President Trump in your community!

We normally don’t get into politics at all and we are not anti-Biden at all, we just believe that the platform developed by others using him can be the end of The American Dream as we know it; we need to save the American dream.

Can you help get this message out, starting at the grassroots, with your local, your conservative candidates, Democrat, Republican, Liberian, and all the independents who are planning to vote for Trump?

Envision the 2020 Convention making a dramatic public commitment to this healing message, literally “Trumping” any message the Democrats could possibly conceive. We can all change and support Tolerance and forgiveness, The President needs to Lead this charge by modifying his attitude , to help this ideology , instead of the ideology of hate and violence, being put forth by A minority of leaders and the Main street  press in the name of winning at all costs. Trump hating is not a campaign, it’s a pitch that some rich and powerfull people use to keep some of us as puppets or victims and to keep their power over the American people.

It’s True the President gives them ammunition in the name of defense, with his Tweets but are we willing to give up our freedom over a Hate campaign!

We at No Hate No Violence don’t usually get into Politics but this loss of our Freedom is too important for us to not weigh in.

We all need to change, be happier and more positive in our approach to politics and each other and change our attitude. Real debating has been lost in American Politics and we hope to help the new generation learn by debating and teach our politicians how to behave and get back to how our country was formed.

Go to Worlddebatingforum.com to see what we are creating for students and teachers, to learn easier, faster and have more fun.

What you’re looking at above are just some examples of the local grassroots initiatives we started in 2016 and that we’re continuing to promote in our community today with this message on behalf of   Doing the right thing –will you help the President take this national? We’re more than willing to give local candidates and the RNC and Trump 2020 ALL rights to use our “No Hate No Violence” message

We have arranged to make up to 500,000 of these signs available nationwide over the next 3 months at below COST, PRINTED LOCALLY when possible or possibly free based on our conversations with potential sponsors. Can you imagine the impact of this message visible on 500,000 lawns and corners?

We have some other equally potent grassroots Go-Trump Pro-Trump surprises to share that we have learned voters not politicians.

PLEASE CONTACT US DIRECTLY WITH YOUR IDEAS & SUGGESTIONS, AND TO ORDER A WHOLE BUNCH OF THESE SIGNS FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU!

Email: nohatenoviolence@gmail.com

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Commitment to the principles of “No Hate No Violence” doesn’t mean that violence is never necessary and justified to defend yourself, your family, your community or your country. It doesn’t exclude defending those who cannot defend themselves against violence, and it is certainly sometimes necessary to protect life, liberty and property, just as it is sometimes the only recourse in countries with authoritarian dictators who use violence against their own people.

We would prefer to see authoritarian governments change their attitude towards violence in general and treat their people’s lives and liberty with respect. We expect the same from organizations in this country and around the world who claim to speak for “the people”. If there’s hate involved in how they operate, they need to be encouraged and educated to change that attitude because the violence that they bring about will be their downfall in the long run.

Violence and hatred beget violence and hatred. That is the stark lesson of history, and every child learns it early in school and on the street. Hatred proceeds unrestrained to violence; and violence breeds more hatred. Every time.

Look at all the people going from hate to violence every day in our country. We want to see the people in the world get rid of hate. Is that naïve to say? We don’t think so. It is a simple statement. Sometimes simple is all that’s needed to say.

Hatred is learned; no baby is born with it. All hatred is all taught and learned, so if you want people not to hate, then they will have to learn again. Learning can be taught to a person or be experienced by a person, but either way it has to occur if hate and violence are ever to diminish. We believe that the learning must include tolerance and understanding of each other because we’re each different from every other person, and we all have different thoughts and different ideas.

Violence is never a solution, unless it’s to defend life or liberty or human rights, individual or collective. Human rights are given to individuals, not just groups. The human rights of the individual –  that was what our forefathers wanted to promote and defend. They believed, as we do, that human rights are God given, they are natural, and they are individual to each person. Every individual has their own individual human rights, and to the extent that people value their own human rights, they can learn to change their attitude toward the human rights of others and this may be how, in the long run, to get rid of hate and violence. It’s not going happen overnight, but if as individuals we can start with ourselves then hopefully we can turn any rhetoric we find ourselves using or thinking closer to expressions of tolerance and understanding.

One of the reasons that this won’t be an easy or quick task is that so many people make so much money promoting hate at the expense of the vulnerable, which includes almost everyone – think about that one. How really vulnerable we all are when someone is spewing hate and preaching violence even when we think their hatred and violence is directed at someone else and not us personally. Whether we see it or not, we are all involved.

So every time we see the media or anyone promoting hate and violence, let’s ask who benefits? Not you or me or anyone or anything we care about, that’s for sure. Promoting hate is an evil way to make money , but we allow it because the haters shelter under “Free Speech”. We think that promoting hatred comes under Justice Brandeis’ definition that “the right to free speech does not extend to yelling “Fire!” in a crowded theater”. If we put the promotion of hatred in the same category as yelling “Fire” in a theater much of it would diminish virtually overnight – after a few high profile prosecutions with maximum penalties.

And while we’re at it, let’s demand more of the good news we know is out there. There are so many amazing individuals doing incredible things with their lives – let’s hear about them! It will make us all happier.   There’s no place in this world for hate, there’s no excuse for any voice that promotes hate towards any religion or culture.

Making the world a better place by rejecting hate and violence, and trying to be a happier person who is more loving toward others – that’s truly a religion as far as I’m  concerned.

We’ve been focusing so much lately on the development of WorldDebatingForum.com rather than posting on this blog that we feel a need to re-state why we’re dedicating ourselves to the philosophy of No Hate No Violence.

We very simply believe that if we can encourage this alternative ideology, over time the U.S and the world can become a much better place.

This human rights-based approach is a peaceful ideology that combats Hate and Violence, not only in religious or political attitudes but also by offering a pragmatic approach to coming up with solutions designed to stop hate.

Help us help others by sending us your solutions to Hate and Violence.

SO, WHAT IS THE NO HATE NO VIOLENCE PHILOSOPHY?

Simple. There Should Be No Place In This World For:

HATE OR VIOLENCE IN POLICE COMMUNITY RELATIONS

HATE OR VIOLENCE IN GENDER RELATIONS

HATE OR VIOLENCE IN RELIGION

HATE OR VIOLENCE IN RACE RELATIONS

HATE OR VIOLENCE IN POLITICS

What we need right now is an alternative ideology to combat terrorists, racists, bigots, religious zealots, radical politicians, and anyone else spreading hate and violence. If you hate anything; ask yourself why? Hate is a choice and everyone has the power to change their choices in life.

In America, we are fortunate to have free speech and the ability to believe in what we want. We can disagree with a belief and promote our own. What we should NOT do though is promote hate or violence to accomplish our goals.

No Hate No Violence is a safer ideology for all parties. And all individuals. It is an alternative approach to combat terrorists, racism, negative politics, and discrimination. Who can logically disagree with these thoughts?

Who can argue with it? Who should listen to them? If they hate, that is their problem. Show them how to make a change so they can talk without hate.

If you ask anyone if they believe in hate or violence, most would say no. So why then do we have so much in the world? Those who preach violence through the guise of religion and or for any other reason should not be able to benefit from the tax deductions recognized and provided by the U.S. Government.  Many other such benefits are wrongly given to those who promote violence.

If you have a hateful attitude, you may know some people who agree with you, but the majority of your peers, friends, family, and society probably do not. If you commit or promote violence in this world then someone – a group, a government, a country, or all the above will always be against you. Violence is the last resort for solving issues of any kind, and we all know that it simply doesn’t solve anything.

We all need to work on discouraging hate and violence in the world, which starts with us and our elected leaders and politicians. The more we identify with this ideology, the faster we can minimize hate and violence in the world, and the sooner we can help spread the message and have others do the same.

Human rights, especially women’s rights, need to be promoted again, and more often. The more we can eliminate, or minimize hate, the better the world will be. Some ideas will work better than others, but together we have the ability to change this ideology. It might take another hundred years to change all of this in the world and the way most people think, and approach hate and violence, but every person that adopts this type of thinking will help in the fight for peace and tolerance around the world.  The U.S. stopped promoting human rights around the world over the last several years allowing the problem to grow.

Also, if you can change your attitude and eliminate “Hate and Violence” the happier you will be. Hate does not make anyone happy.  If you believe in no hate no violence, scream it from the rooftops, share it with a community leader, a co-worker, your local politician.  Pass it on.

This ideology needs to spread to people who can honestly and passionately get behind it and influence it, individuals(s) who can develop it into policies and spread the word and transform these words into action.  Someone strong (like the American President) who could be honest about the human shortcomings we all have could do the most. We may not be able to eliminate all hate or violence in this world, but together we can significantly minimize it.  We can be the good guys again and create a platform from which we can work to eliminate the Hate and Violence we see spreading everywhere.

SHIFTING OUR ATTITUDE TO SHIFT THE WORLD

The longer I live, the more I realize how much impact attitude has on people’s lives. A person’s attitude is more important than education. It’s more important than money, circumstances, failures, successes, appearance or skill. It’s especially more important than what others think, say or do. The attitude of everyone involved will make or break a company, a church, a home – or a country.

Look at politics. A change in attitude could be one of the largest, fastest influences on our country’s political ideology. We need to go back to the days when politicians had an attitude of compromise. Instead of focusing on what they perceive will keep them or their party in office and in control, they should compromise for the people they serve. Politicians need to shift their attitude back to the time when they existed to help the people they are sworn to serve and who elected them to do so.

The change starts by shifting the political focus. Once politicians start focusing on the issues instead of gossip and their own special interests, the attitudes of the people will start to change. The silent majority will wake up, become proud of their country, and get involved in working for everyone, not just themselves. In turn, the politicians’ attitudes will continue to shift, and they’ll start working harder to agree instead of disagree. And the cycle will continue, moving the country closer to actually fixing our problems.

The remarkable thing is that this change is something we, the people, can make every day. Every day we have a choice regarding the attitude we embrace. We cannot change the past, nor the fact that other people will act a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. But we can change our attitude. And we’re the only ones who can change it.

I am convinced that life is 10 percent what happens to us and 90 percent how we react to it. So change how you react to all things in this world, and you might just change the world itself. Hopefully, our political leaders will actually lead us in this effort.

Hate-filled and disrespectful “free speech” is alive and well in the Democratic Party, which has been my party for 50+ years. The so called “debate” the other night was filled with nasty and embarrassing moments – again. No order, no self-control, no facts or fact checking, way too many straight-out lies, and the moderators quickly lost their grip on the process – again.
Who runs the best debates – go back and look. Who asks hard questions of all candidates, enforces the rules of debating, and never lets people talk over each other – all to make sure the audience can hear and understand what is being said. Whether you like what is being said or not – that isn’t the point here.

Saying what you disagree or agree with using facts and reasoning with respect – that’s debating. Pushing forward just points of view and facts that you like and ignoring, rejecting and disrespecting everything else – that’s not debating or helping the voters learn.
A debate should be about people discussing facts and ideas, making reasonable even if passionate arguments, and listening to each other. We did not hear a debate the other evening because of the lack of control by candidates and moderators alike, the hateful bickering, accusations and innuendos, with all the shouting and “look at me” grandstanding to grab attention. Again.
We at NO HATE NO VIOLENCE believe in debating done correctly with good facts and respect.

The nohatenoviolence movement is a big believer in open dialogue and people talking to each other with respect, and more importantly listening to each other. Our guiding thought is that “The most important part of free speech is respectful listening.”

As you may know if you’re a follower we’ve been working hard for over a year on a debating program called World Debating Forum for all types of debating, with a special emphasis on classroom debate – a vastly overlooked and very valuable style of debate. Through this no hate no violence website we will feature a series of Opensource books and resources for teachers, students and parents to be able to focus on every aspect of the art of debating. Debate has been declining in the United States, a loss that is largely attributed to budget cuts. We think that part of the decline is that debating has turned from a civilized intellectual sport to a fight to the death-style competition. But we would like to bring it back to its roots because we think ithat classroom debate could help a lot of teachers lighten their load and get more students involved in something fun and challenging that has been proven to help them learn faster and better.

We want more parents to get involved in what the kids and their children are doing because they can support their children in a fun way and it’s an activity that’s fun for those who would like it.

We’re talking about it to athletes, non-athletes and anybody who thinks they can benefit from debate. It would benefit the district, the students are already doing well and understand debating but we’re trying to reach out to the students who are struggling a little bit to give them a better opportunity to get excited about school, getting more cognitive thinking and redirect people like the bullies and the people who will struggle socially. This can actually bring them out into an arena that allows them to be much more socially active and learn by doing it because the kids are working on teaching themselves in an interactive way.

Those smart lucky students will have a positive life changing experience; entitled kids helping underprivileged kids will do more than anyone can ever do for both of them and society.

“72% of high-risk secondary school debaters graduate versus 43% of secondary school nondebaters.”

We know that these ideas have been embraced by some schools more effectively than others; we’re trying to help improve that. We want to encourage communities that can’t get their schools onboard to do it outside in other ways, like their community outreach through church’s boys and girls clubs or just organize a group. Let me just give you a few quotes that have been put out by the American debate league

“While only 50% of high school students in urban schools graduate 90% of urban school debaters graduate.”

High-risk secondary school debaters also score better on ACT and SAT tests to get into better colleges and they perform better once in college and in life in general.

Students do not need to be forever debating to see results; even one or two debate experiences improves performance though every semester a student debates their grades go up.

These are pretty good examples of how we can support and help our children, their teachers and the administration to get better results.